Urgent: No. Sor Mor 0001/335
Offfice of the National Human Rights Commission of
Re: Report of investigation into the case of Mr Leo Delpinto and Ms Carly Reisig who were shot by an officer from Pai Police Station To: Director General, Department of Special Investigation Encl.: Report of investigation by National Human Rights Commission As the National Human Rights Commission (NHRC) has taken up the case of Mr Leo Delpinto and Ms Carly Reisig, Canadian tourists who were shot by the police in Pai, which caused the death of Leo Delpinto at the scene of the incident, while Miss Carly Reisig was injured and sent to Pai Hospital. The event occurred on January 6th, 2008. The NHRC has assigned the subcommittee for protecting human rights in the judicial system to investigate the case according to National Human Rights Commission Act 1998. In investigating the facts, the subcommittee had the opinion that the testimony of individual witnesses at the court conflicted with facts from the police investigation, but were consistent with testimony from anonymous witnesses to the NHRC. It is thus credible that there has been a violation of human rights by state officers in the justice system, a matter in which the Canadian Embassy and the media has a special interest. As state officials are involved and the damaged party are foreigners, this has impacted international relations, and public order and decency. The investigation of this case requires gathering complex evidence requiring a special investigative method to gather evidence for the greatest justice for all parties concerned. After consideration, the NHRC has resolved to send the report of this investigation to the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) to take on as a Special Case, according to the Special Investigation Act 2004. Thus for your consideration to action, and for requests for results of the undertaking, NHRC will thank you greatly Sincerely Mr Arinnapong Sutsukhon
Secretary General of the NHRC
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Report on the Violation of Human Rights by National Human Rights Commission
Results report number 77/2551 Re: Rights in the justicial process in the case of Canadian tourists being shotComplainant: Case taken upComplainee: Police officers from Pai district Police Station, Mae Hong Son province. Case taken up On Monday, 7 January, 2008, many media published news that Pol Corp Uthai Dechawiwat, a police officer from Pai district Police Station, Mae Hong Son province, had shot Canadian tourists with one dying and one injured. The event occurred on 6 January, 2008 on Highway 1095, Moo 8, Wiang Tai subdistrict, Pai district, Mae Hong Son province. The deceased was Mr Leo Delpinto aged 25, and the injured was Ms Carly Reisig, aged 24. Pol Corp Uthai claimed he heard the sound of the deceased and Ms Carly arguing and attempted to stop the situation by revealing himself as a policeman, but the deceased and Ms Carly turned on him. Pol Corp Uthai thus drew his gun to control the situation. The deceased tried to wrest the gun from him causing the gun to go off and the round to enter the body of the deceased and Ms Carly, who was severely injured. After considering the matter, the Office of the NHRC thus resolved to take up the case as Complaint No 39/2551 dated 11 January 2008, and assigned the subcommittee for protecting human rights in the judicial system to take action. Investigation of the facts: The subcommittee investigated the facts as follows:
1. On Wednesday 30 January, 2008 an (anonymous) witness testified to the subcommittee that on 6 January, 2008, the day of the incident, there had been an open-air musical performance at Reggae Place near the scene of the incident. There was playing around the bonfire until the music ended at about 0200 hours. The witness walked to eat rice soup at P.Dang shop, about 20 metres from the Ting Tong business. He saw Ms Carly walk with Mr Leo. At the same time, Mr Rattapon, a male friend of Ms Carly rode a motorcycle past them and turned around. The witness saw Mr Rattapon talk to Ms Carly. They were arguing and he heard loud shouting ending with the word “dog” (asking afterwards he found out Ms Carly was admonishing Mr Rattapon for not feeding a dog). Mr Rattapon was slapped hard on the face three times. Mr Rattapon thus turned to punch Ms Carly in the face once, and they fought until they both fell to the ground. Mr Leo thus pulled up Mr Rattapon and said “Stop”. During this, a man half-walked, half-ran from the direction of Pai Police Station wearing a sweat jacket and yellow shirt held a gun and said “you get down”. Mr Rattapon got down, Leo put his hands up. Ms Carly stood up, the man holding the gun used it to hit Ms Carly in the face and kicked her in the ribs. With Ms Carly doubled over, he fired a shot at Ms Carly. Ms Carly withdrew, holding her chest. Mr Leo called out, “stop please”. The man walked backwards and tripped on a motorcycle, making him bend over backwards. Mr Leo gave his hand for the man to get up. A shot came from the gun hitting Mr Leo in the stomach, causing Mr Leo to slump. The man fired another shot which hit him in the face. People saw the man walk away, and after a while the police arrived. Mr Rattapon took Ms Carly to Pai
3. Mr Rattapon Warewdee testified to
4. On 5 February, 2008, Dr. Khunying Porthip Rajanasanun inspected the body of Ms Carly and met the Head of the Department of Forensic Medicine, Faculty of Medicine, Chiang Mai
5. The subcommittee met policemen at Pai Police Station in Mae Hong Son, and the policemen explained that it was an accident of the gun going off from a fight for the gun. 6. The subcommittee met the governor of Mae Hong Son and the Deputy Commissioner of Mae Hong Son police to state that police officers were carrying out investigation of the case. Opinion of the subcommittee for protecting human rights in the judicial system The subcommittee, after consideration, had the opinion that facts from the testimony of witnesses at court, and the facts from the investigation were in conflict with that, where the testimony of individuals in the court were reasonably consistent with the anonymous witness at the scene testifying to the subcommittee. It is thus credible that there has been a violation of human rights by state officers in the judicial system, where this complaint is of interest to the Canadian embassy in Thailand and the media have been showing special interest in the case. It was thus seen as appropriate to refer the matter to the Department of Special Investiation (DSI), a neutral organization, for further action according to its powers, for the maximum justice of all parties.
Resolution of the Office of the National Human Rights Commission The NHRC approved the resolution of the subcommittee at meeting number 4/2551 of the NHRC dated 14 February, 2008.
Mr. Saneh Jamrik, President of the NHRC
Miss Naiyana Suphapeung, Board of the NHRC
Mr. Pradit Charoen Thaithawee, Board of the NHRC
Mr. Wasan Panich, Board of the NHRC
Mr. Suthin Noppaket, Board of the NHRC
Mrs. Suni Chaiyaros, Board of the NHRC
Mr.Surasi Kosolnavin, Board of the NHRC Khunying Amporn Meesuk, Board of the NHRC Miss Arporn Wongsang Board of the NHRC

Yes, this was a violation of human rights by state officials, both in the initial incident and attempted cover-up. This has serious implications for Thailand if those attempts by the state police in Pai are not duly punished to the full extent of the law. At this point, we are looking at more guilty parties than just the drunk, off-duty police officer. Please make sure justice is done, for all of us.
Nailing my colours to your mast led to a rather earlier exeunt than I would have preferred but that’s Thaivisa for you.
George is concerned that two top journalists are seen fighting on TV but quite how he could include that American *** in such an assessment is somewhat mystifying.
Keep up your usual standard of work and we may yet see another addled custodian of the dubious Thai peace suitably incarcerated.
Explanatory note: Thaivisa.com is a blog for expatriates in Thailand. I had been submitting posts to this website through my colleague ‘Claymore’ mainly to answer the school of thought that Carly Reisig was to blame for the murders, because of her past behaviour, and to help put the train of thought in the right direction, that espoused by another poster called ‘Arkady’ that Thai police were being economical with the truth.
(Carl Reisig btw had hit or pushed a policeman in an incident in a bar in which police were threatening to arrest her Thai boyfriend)
The main champion of the ‘she had it coming’ school of thought was a poster using the name ‘sabaijai’. He, in essence, forwarded the view that there was no climate of fear from police, and posted a number of condescending and derogatory remarks about sensational journalism.
Pretty much everybody in Pai was saying it was Carly’s fault, according to ‘sabaijai’, who comically referred to me as a journalist who used to ring up somebody he knew in Chiang Mai asking ‘Any dead Brits?’.
The family of Del Pinto reacted accordingly, as one can see in a letter posted on this site http://www.andrew-drummond.com and in The Nation newspaper.
I knew from an early stage the identity of the poster. It was a well known author of the Thailand Lonely Planet guidebooks, Joe Cummings who spends his life between Chiang Mai and Pai, who now occasionally plays in a band.
(Claymore incidentally had made it clear he was posting messages from Andrew Drummond)
Mr.Cummings is a former Peace Corps volunteer turned writer respected for his travel reports. His experience in investigative journalism outside the realm of value for money guest houses is rather limited.
When ‘Sabaijai’ (also a super-moderator on ThaiVisa.com) contributed a post saying that he had no commercial or business interests in Pai, Chiang Mai, or for that matter, anywhere in Thailand, I felt it essential to point out this was blatantly not true. Sabaijai as a super-moderator was actively editing posts in the same thread, while in fact he has been a key figure in the backpacker industry for many years, and even wrote a column for the Pai Post, under the same name Sabaijai.
When Ross Wilson made the film ‘Who Killed Kirsty Jones?” based on my investigations for ‘The Times’ Joe Cummings was used as a ‘talking head’ which is what he is more used to.
(“Thais are more tactile now. Before they would not even approach a female foreign tourist etc. etc”). Though in his blogs he gives the impression he was ‘on the case’.
Simultaneously residents of Pai, who had remained quiet suddenly started, contributing posts disagreeing with ‘sabaijai, saying relations with the police in Pai were by no means fine and dandy, and yes people were scared of the local police who had acquired a very bad reputation. Nevertheless Joe Cummings was still editing posts
Having ‘outed’ Sabaijai as Joe Cummings, Claymore was banned from Thai Visa as of course this is against ThaiVisa rules. So was the poster Westerby, who posted in my support and who made contact with me with by this post ‘Westerby’. He was banned because people thought he was ‘Claymore’ Another moderator, who supported my line was also relieved of her duties, and posters are continually emailing me now to say their posts have either edited or cut completely.
At the moment I view this website but will no longer contribute. I prefer the view of qualified editors. I take no delight in reporting now that most of my articles have turned out to be correct and the Thai government has now promised transparency into how Leo Del Pinto was killed.
*The ‘George’ referred to is the big boss at ThaiVisa.com
I asked them to cancel my membership but apparently all they can do is “ban” people so now I am banned from Thaivisa. I simply refuse to be a part of a forum that openly stands in the way of justice and fights against “right” in an obvious situation of right and wrong. They were repeatedly deleting posts from myself and others in a debate over the pai shootings which is ridiculous when you consider the person deleting the posts is also the main contributor to the opposing viewpoint… a complete and obvious conflict of interest. My posts didn’t break their rules, as I’m sure other peoples didn’t either, the mod “Sabaijai/Cummings” simply disagreed with them and wanted his voice and opinion to stand brighter than anyone elses.
Don’t they think it’s odd that all the people that told it like it was going to happen turned out to be totally correct and now we are no longer there? Shouldn’t it be the other way around? No I guess not….
Anyway, please keep up the good work Mr. Drummond, as far as I’m concerned you are the only one out there fighting for justice from the beginning and as a direct result of your work there has been positive movement towards actual justice for the murder of Leo Del Pinto.
Damian Mavis
I do post on Thaivisa and have felt it a way to release a lot of what I’m feeling as well as express gratitude from the many people who stood up to the plate in our defence. Even though I don’t feel that should have been needed. My brother Dale lived in Thailand long before he met the love (death) of his life. He trusted her with his life. In my eyes she is evil and as cruel as cruel gets as well as her partners in crime. Who really knows how many that entails. As I have learned, a great many more than people realize. Why is the Mother of Maneerat free. She was also present in Dales home at the time of his murder. Her and a bunch are still their. They can go back to whereever they came from, all I care about are his animals. At least you know where you stand with an animal. She was the one at the funeral who piggishly stole all the money gifted to the family to cover expenses…which were paid by us. They laughed when I arrived…I hope he haunts you all forever. I know he will. His heart and trust was trampled on to the most disgusting degree by many I’m learning. He loved your country so much and was proud enough to embed that in his skin. Shame on you all…you know who you are. I alone just for travel and expenses the costs exceeded $7000. That did not include funeral costs. My brother wanted to move here to keep a part of Dale. It is a beautiful country but not ours. I will fight him with all I have. I am his big sister and all that he has anymore to look out for him!!
Nee you looked like you were at home behind those monkey bars!! Not a tear fell from your eyes. ENJOY!
EXPLANATORY NOTE: Mary-Jane is the sister of Canadian Dale Henry who was murdered in Ranong earlier this year. His Thai wife, her lover, a third man who carried out the shooting are being held by police.
There is a separate thread on Thaivisa.com. In this thread ThaiVisa members were very helpful to Dale’s family