Monthly Archive for October, 2009

British broadcasting ‘watchdog’ rejects complaint about ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ UPDATED

Has Ofcom ruled lies can’t hurt us? Rory Bremner has the last laugh.

Britain’s broadcasting watchdog ‘Ofcom’ has rejected complaints about the documentary series ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ brought by the series producer himself.

In rejecting the complaint Ofcom says that Gavin Hill was not entitled to complain as he did not feature in the series, nor was he connected to the subjects of the series, Thai police, tourists, police volunteers etc.

Gavin Hill

Gavin Hill

A complaint by Hill that the series also falsely repeatedly stated that last year 288 Brits were killed in Thailand, when in fact that was the number of Brits who had just died in Thailand, was also rejected as Ofcom judged that this ‘would not  result in material harm to viewers ‘

The controversial series ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ was originally sold by Hill as ‘Thai Cops’ to comedian Rory Bremner’s company Vera Productions and went out earlier this year on the ‘Bravo’ Channel in Britain.

Hill, former APTV chief in Singapore,  had complained that the company had failed to fact check when they edited in London and had made some unethical cuts to alter the reality of situations.

Dean Palmer Does he read his email?

Dean Palmer Does he read his email?

Roger Riach, the son of a Scots woman who died after being mugged in Bangkok has also complained about the television series. Despite the London executive producer Dean Palmer having been notified of her death, which in any case was widely reported in the press, the programme reported two weeks ago that Lydia Riach was still alive and Thai police were hot on the trail of her killer. They also named Dougie and Roger Riach, her husband and son, as ‘ Tony’ and ‘John’ without any explanation.

Said Gavin Hill: “This is just the sort of stuff I have been up against. I emailed Dean Palmer with the full update about Lydia’s death.”

 It is believed the report was included to replace another jet-ski incident,  after a showdown with Royal Marines in Phuket and a jet-ski operator,  caused wide controversy in Thailand

 The text of the Ofcom rejection follows below:

 Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:51
Subject: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand: Bravo Ref: 1-129444255
Dear Mr Hill
 
Thank you for submitting a fairness and privacy complaint form.
 
I note you are the programme maker of the series Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand but that you do not appear in nor are referred to in the programme.
In order to bring a complaint of unfair treatment in the programme as broadcast or unwarranted infringement of privacy in the making or broadcast of a programme, our criteria for “person affected” must be satisfied. In accordance with our procedures for handling fairness and privacy complaints (copy attached), the “person affected” is a person who is a participant in a programme and is the subject of the alleged unfair treatment or unwarranted infringement of privacy or has a direct interest in the subject matter of the alleged unfair treatment or unwarranted infringement of privacy and if a direct interest  then that the interest is sufficiently direct.
 
Having read your complaint, I note you were not a participant in the programme nor were you referred to. The subject matter of the programme complained of appears to be the work of the Thai Police authorities. As the programme maker you therefore do not have a direct interest in the subject matter of the programme.  Furthermore, the issues you raise are potential issues of unfairness in the making of the programme and this falls outside of Ofcom’s remit. Broadcasters have the right to editorial freedom when making programmes providing, in the case of fairness and privacy, it does not result in unfairness in the broadcast programme or unwarranted infringement of privacy in the making or broadcast of the programme to a “person affected”.
 
With regard to your complaint about accuracy relating to the opening statement in the programme that last year 288 Britons were killed in Thailand, this has been assessed under the Standards section of the Ofcom Broadcasting Code (“the Code”) under Harm and Offence.
 
We assess such matters against Rule 2.2 of the Code, which directs that factual programmes or items or portrayals of factual matters must not materially mislead the audience, but is intended to deal with content which materially misleads the audience so as to cause harm rather than accuracy per se.
While we acknowledge your distinction between describing someone being killed and dying, in this particular context, which was simply a factual reference to the number of deaths, we don’t judge this would result in material harm to viewers in the sense of our rules.
I am sorry that we cannot consider your complaint further but thank you for contacting Ofcom. 
 
Kind regards
 
 Julia Snape

Fairness & Privacy,Content & Standards

 

Comment: No surprises here but its nice to know that Ofcom appears to support the notion that false information cannot harm us.

Hill and Palmer when times were good!

Hill and Palmer when times were good!

But whatever happens these chaps will not be sitting in the same love-seat anymore.

The shot here was taken in happier times before Dean Palmer left to supervise the edit in the UK.

The R in Vera is Rory Bremner and the A is Geoff Atkinson, Bremner’s producer and partner in the company. Actually Geoff, with whom I have been in correspondence over BTIT, is one of Britain’s top comedy writers and producers and has written for Cannon and Ball, Ronnie Barker, as well of course from Bremner.

He has also made some serious investigative docs.

His series ‘Heil Honey I’m home’ based on Adolf Hitler and Eva Braun sharing a house in the suburbs was however taken off after one episode.

Well I can see the humour there, after all we have had the ‘Producers’, ‘Allo Allo’ and ‘Hogan’s Heroes all taking the fun out of the Nazis. Perhaps it was ahead of its time.

Dean Palmer is a different sort of fish to track down although his background on zoominfo includes such greats as ‘I’m a Celebrity Get me out of here’, ‘Survivor’, Dispatches etc,  Assignment and The Big Story further searches have revealed little more. However on Vera’s website he is listed as one of the company’s ‘two thinkers’. One of his programme’s ‘Sky Crimes’ was apparently short-listed for an Emmy, but when I looked up Sky Crimes he was not on the list of major credits which included producer or director.

Gavin Hill has more of a news background starting as sound broadcaster in Picaddily Radio, Manchester, he went on to be APTV’s man in Singapore and has reported from Afghanistan, Peru, and umpteen more places and we were both on the hunt for Nick Leeson.

He has also been a Hollywood TV reporter based out of LA, an instructor in television journalism,  worked for ‘Real TV and  subsequently even gave a talk once entitled: ‘Quality TV - My part in its downfall’, though I think (I hope) that was self effacement rather than a real statement of fact.

Mind you he does have a dark television secret involving a giant rubber ball and the Grand Canyon, I believe. I haven’t got to the bottom of that yet. :-)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Iguana handlers in Soi Crocodile Veggie Fest protest

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As if Phuket is not getting enough bad PR at the moment, the Phuket Gazette is reporting a punch up between a Middle iguana02Eastern tourist and three ‘Iguana handlers’ after the tourist apparently declined to be photographed being pictured with one of these creatures in, yes, Soi Crocodile.

The 20-yr-old Syrian ended up being stabbed with a pocket knife.

A novelty holiday picture - if you are visiting Belize

A novelty holiday picture - if you are visiting Belize

Here’s a hint about buying Iguanas. Don’t.  They can grow up to five feet and won’t fetch your morning paper, wai, or even chase the local cat.

Why ‘Iguana handlers’, who are guys with no experience of Iguanas but have bought them illegally to make a fast buck, are allowed to pester people in Patong says a lot about the country’s promise to eradicate the trade in wild life.

Getting a picture taken with a ladyboy however IS contributing to the local wild-life.

As its Phuket Vegatarian Festival however here is a link to a recipe for Iguana.

http://www.mex-recipes.com/recipes-mexican-food.html

Finally a link from my colleague Andy Chant http://apiln.blogspot.com/  If you think your lot is bad have a heart for these people who are going through hell in the UK and telling their local newspapers about it.

British boy, 8, held with sharpened pencil in Bangkok stand-off

From Andrew Drummond, Bangkok
October 26
An eight-yr-old British boy was held with a sharpened pencil to his throat held by an apparently drug crazed thief on the outskirts of the Thai capital Bangkok, his father said today.
Screaming and shouting in Thai, the thief, in his twenties, demanded cash after being confronted by the boy’s mother and Liverpudlian dad.

The boy's father Ron Raine

The boy's father Ron Raine

“I told him he would die if he did anything to my son,” said the boy’s father Ron Raine, 57, “but I was three yards away and too far away to make a lunge at him and stop him piercing my son’s throat.
“There was a lot of screaming and shouting.”
Amazingly the stand-off came to an end after Ron Raine, a graphics designer from Walton, Liverpool, produced the sum total of the only cash in his and his wife Fon’s wallet totaling just over eight pounds (sterling).
The thief then left, hurriedly letting go of Martin, a keen Everton supporter, and leaving not only his shoes behind but also a bag containing a knife and tools for burglary.
The incident happened in Krissada Nakorn village in Rangsit, 25 miles north of Bangkok on Tuesday evening. A police spokesman in Rangsit said: “We are confident we will catch the man as we can build up a picture of him quickly because he left his belongings behind.”
Ron Raine,  said he believed that the thief had got into his house during the day and was trapped inside when he got back from visiting friends, and his wife and son got back from the shops with Martin.
“I heard my son screaming and rushed inside to see the man holding my son with his arm round Martin’s neck and a pencil to his throat. It was a pencil Martin was using for his homework.
“The thief agreed to go after we produced all the cash we had on us, less than eight quid, and I promised I would not follow.   I had to stop my wife chasing after him.  I did not know what he might have done and decided to leave it to the police.
“ I was brought up in Walton within spitting distance of Goodison Park and later spent 15 years in Kirkby. This is a quiet suburb and has upset us all.  Martin says he wants us to move house.”

Big Trouble in Thailand - finally the truth and an apology

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Today my friends at Phuketwan are reporting that all jet-skis in Patong Beach are now insured. This is now perhaps the time to put the lid on an incident in June this year involving a row over a damaged jet ski, British Royal Marines, and a payment of 35,000 Thai baht. etc…. and reveal the truth.

The series producer of ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ Gavin Hill was not present for the edit in London and as such he appears to have been unable to stop some sharp editing during the jet ski scene in which some audio was pulled in from elsewhere to apparently make the scene look more dramatic.

The film, showing on the minority Bravo channel in the UK with just some 100,000 plus viewers, has apparently caused quite some controversy including threats to arrest the Thai fixers and a meeting between the London producers and the Thai Ambassador in London. 

Actually personally I found it quite a true reflection on life in certain tourist areas in Thailand though of course it cannot speak from a very high moral plain because of some careless edits, and all the bells, whistles, repetitions, clanging prison doors etc. Lets face it its a film for chavs but it has entertained many of us especially as the chav narrator kept going on about Foo-ket and Patt-aye-ya.

As no foreigner is going to apologise for the jet ski stuff  I now take it upon myself to apportion blame where of course it is truly deserved and apologise on everyone’s behalf.

“Dear Sir,
As a journalist based in Thailand I feel it is my duty to apologise for the wrong assumptions and unfair media treatment Thailand received this year over an incident involving a ‘damaged’ jet-ski, the Royal Marines and a very respectable businessmen called JJ.

Just a toy. That's so bloody obvious

Just a toy. That's so bloody obvious

Contrary to reports overseas, the jet ski hirer Marine Jack Tebbott, 21, was in fact so mortified about damaging the jet ski in question that he walked three miles to the jet-ski owners private premises to apologise and was not, as some reports suggest, taken there against his own will.
In addition he called his friends in the Royal Marines to help him with the apology as he thought a group apology would be better and carry far more weight.
He admitted many times that he was guilty even though he rather thought, that as the damage was to the side of the boat, his left leg might have noticed.
He even called in his boss in the Marine Police, Sergeant Tim Wright to apologise too.
The man known as JJ had described on camera how he dealt with foreigners who did not pay up. But this gesture of slapping his fist into his hand could not in any way be interpreted as an indication of physical violence.  In any case knowing how journalists operate it was probably taken from his cookery programme in which he demonstrates how to grind spices for tom yam kung.

Playful banter. Tim and JJ sharing a joke as Marine Jack Tebbott chuckles in the background

Playful banter. Tim and JJ sharing a joke as Marine Jack Tebbott chuckles in the background

Indeed it is quite clear from the documentary ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’, that footage which showed Marines and JJ laughing and joking and making small talk was in fact substituted with audio suggesting that they were alarmed when JJ produced what was obviously a toy gun. What pussycats!  Further what was not explained in the programme is that JJ said that his bosses do not like him using guns as they are the guys who actually do.
Clearly the sound track which was not translated for the British audience, and which appeared to show JJ saying to himself : “These motherfuckers  not (going to) mess with me’  must have come from a totally different incident , also his reference to the Marines as ‘mun’ (jerks in this context).
There clearly is a cut in the film during the gun scene which makes things suspicious. I am sure it cannot be because of the feeble excuse that JJ told the crew not to film either of the other two guns in his armoury.
There is of course a sequence which shows some swearing between the Marine Police Sergeant and JJ. This friendly banter has of course been wildly distorted. 

There was a sequence in the film which also shows JJ saying that if the stain on the fibre glass is brown – then the damage is old.
Sergeant Wright pointed out that the stain in this case was also brown.  But it was decided by mutual agreement that in this case the brown meant that it was new damage.
Marine Jack was more than happy to pay out 35,000 Thai baht in damages and Tim and JJ were so happy that they settled in a spirit of warm conviviality and can clearly be seen shaking hands.
In fact one Marine was so deliriously happy that he had to be held back by his comrades from giving JJ a Glasgow kiss. 

Why were JJ's men not allowed to wear their suits?

Why were JJ's men not allowed to wear their suits?

Marine Sergeant Wright is not as JJ says, his father, pa, or dad, and JJ is indeed a normal person and a businessman.  I am also appalled at the cutaways to JJ’s colleagues covered all over with tattoos and being made to look menacing. So why did the filmmakers not give them the opportunity to look as smart as Sergeant Wright?

 But no! These film companies, who are obviously out to trash Thailand, do not show these sort of things do they!  Good news is not news is it!

Jet ski operators Phuket happily agree to massive discounts or something else at Phuketwan

Jet ski operators Phuket happily agree to massive discounts or something else at Phuketwan

Two policemen arrived at the same time as Sergeant Tim Wright and of course had anything untoward happened they would have done something.
In fact when JJ is negotiating he says his uncle is the local police chief, showing that he is indeed an upstanding citizen, I believe they even joined in a chorus together with Marine Jack in: “We are men. We are men. We are not ladyboys. We are not katoeys. We don’t run.”
To be quite frank, as Sergeant Wright has pointed out, Royal Marines were involved in five other jet ski incidents in June in two days in Patong Beach, Phuket, and had to pay damages on each occasion.
This quite clearly shows that these guys know nothing at all about boats and watercraft.
  They should not be allowed out to sea at all!

Sergeant Wright is mistaken when he refers accidentally to the jet ski operator as a  ‘two bit low-life’.  Either that or this was taken from another section when he was talking about the cameraman.

Thailand has lots of lovely beaches - and jet skis

Thailand has lots of lovely beaches - and jet skis

In fact jet-skis are really quite sophisticated machines which should not really put in the hands of foreigners.

 Due to their lack of sklls under Thai law foreigners are not allowed to operate any vessel, powered or sail, based in Thailand without an authorised Thai Captain looking over their shoulder.

Proof is in the fact that between December and April this year in Chaweng Beach, Koh Samui, over 150 foreigners, operating without Thai Captains, had to pay up for damages.


In conclusion the Thai Film Board, Tourism Authority etc, Channel 3 and the Bangkok Post are all quite right in their assumptions.  Anybody Thai who had a hand in the making of ‘Big Trouble in Thailand’ and did not collude in showing a favourable image to the country should be brought to trial.
And JJ, who had no history of firearms offences ( well apart from an incident three day before the  Marines arrived ) should therefore receive an apology from the producers forthwith.
PS: The 500 baht taxi fare from Kalim to Patong is a very good deal by the way. Why are all these foreigners complaining. They’re all rich are they not?

Disrespecting Thai culture. Foreigners in lock up after Full Moon party on Koh Phangnan

Disrespecting Thai culture. Foreigners in lock up after Full Moon party on Koh Phangnan

 

 

 

May I take this opportunity to also apologise for the outrageous slur made against the police in Koh Phangan who it was alleged ( well it was not, but the Police Chief in Koh Phagnan says it was) profiteered monthly from the drugs arrests at the Full Moon Parties. These people are disrespecting Thai culture by bringing their drugs culture to this small island. It is up to the Thai police to use the full powers of the law to eradicate this problem. Nevertheless people have been treated with leniency and mercy.  I would like to point out the girl in question got bail ( as they always do) and went to court (as everybody does) and received due justice and mercy in Thailand. This had nothing to do with the cameras being present. It would be outrageous to suggest that all the other people paid themselves off with figures up to and over 60,000 baht on pain of going to jail,  and this was the only druggie the filmmaker could find,  who had to go through the process as she could not scrape the bribe together.

 

 
 

 

Ruining Thai culture. Restaurant menu on Haad Rin beach Koh Phangnan

Ruining Thai culture. Restaurant menu on Haad Rin beach Koh Phangnan

Acknowledgement: With thanks to the painstaking research by Talen and Thailandlandofsmiles.com

 

 

However it appears that neither Marine Sergeant Tim Page nor Gavin Hill agree with my researcher Talen, who has been digging deep from his huts in Nakon Phanom and Mukdahan and I suppose in the interests of fairness I have to reprint these letters to him.

 

Marine Police Sergeant Tim Wright

Marine Police Sergeant Tim Wright

Police did ’sweet fanny Adam’

From Marine Police Sergeant Tim Wright, 40 Commando, Taunton, Somerset

Talen

I have just found this site (www.thailandlandofsmiles.com) and as you seem to have taken an aversion to my methods let me put you in the picture about the incident, which I see Gavin Hill has already commented on.

I was called to the scene, one of numerous similar incidents I had been called to that week, and had been informed that a gun had been pulled on a group of Royal Marines by a local ‘business man’! It was not my intent on arrival at a scene to allow that weapon or any other to be drawn again. As for not calling the local police, they were there, I didn’t have to, my Thai colleagues had called them and they sat around doing nothing, just waiting for the money to be handed over and for us to leave. If the lad had not already made a deal with JJ, I would have removed them from the scene and told him to take him to court. He would not have done because he knew it was a scam.

This onging corruption and criminality spoils a beautiful country and a very generous and loving people. I saw many tourists being scammed by the jet ski hire people, it is something I would warn anybody visiting Thailand against doing, along with motorbike hire, drugs and ladyboys.

The whole visit to Phuket was marred for many of the young me and women I was policing by such scams, and it would be far more productive for you to try and remove that blight from your golden beaches than to insult law abiding tourists who bring much needed foreign currency to your country.

I am an honourable man and I would like an apology for your comments about me. To insult me as you have and caste doubts as to my character and professionalism deeply saddens me I can only hope you never fall foul of a similar con.

your aye

Tim
And this from Gavin Hill, formerly of Bravo Productions

Hi Talen –
So, you cracked the case hey? Solved the mystery?
With quite a bit of help along the way from the trustyswordoftruth it would appear
Mike’s correct in saying neither Tim nor I needed to respond to you, and I think you have been unnecessarily adversarial and impolite, given our contribution to your blog.
I think you have been confused as to who the ‘enemy’ is at times.
You do owe Tim an apology. He was acting in the very best interests of his men and very bravely. Some of your comments do suggest naivete as to the way things work on the ground in situations like this – in Thailand and many other places too for that matter.
I know you’ll get very defensive about this, but it would be magnanimous of you if you did.
Vera Productions are threatening to sue – they don’t like the release of any footage which shows how they doctored sound which contributed to a man’s arrest and imprisonment.
Now, whoever uploaded that video to You Tube did so in the public interest – because I would imagine they believe in professionalism, balance and fairness, that factual entertainment shouldn’t be at the expense of factual accuracy.
I would imagine they also believe that their credibility and that of the series is compromised by factual inaccuracy, attempts at fabrication, misleading information (288 Brits “killed” last year in Thailand) and the unnecessary dramatisation of very real events, such as JJ and the Marines. Mispronunciation of place names is just pathetic.
But I expect they felt powerless to do anything about it in the face of rampant sensationalism, disregard for old fashioned journalistic values and threatened legal might.
The fact remains, however it was (mis)represented by Vera Productions/Virgin Media, that JJ introduced a gun into a very tense situation (the audio over the gun shots came from a scuffle between JJ and one of the Marines that wasn’t cut into the broadcast programme, but should have been). The gun was threatening, although I don’t believe the line of v/o should have said that.
As the creator, producer, director and cameraman of ‘Big Trouble In Thailand’ but with little or no input into the editing process my misgivings, or should I say fury, began when Virgin Media at the last minute changed the working title ‘Thai Cops’ to ‘Big Trouble In Tourist Thailand’. I complained – in the strongest possible terms – that this would be a slap in the face of the Thai authorities who so kindly gave me such unrivaled and unique access. If I’d said we were making ‘Big Trouble In Tourist Thailand’ I seriously doubt we would have been permitted to do what we did. Had the title not been so provocative – personally I saw it as an attack on Thailand’s tourism industry – and had the JJ scenes been edited in a more balanced manner (as had been the case in the rough cut I was sent to look at) then I think the series would have received less adverse attention and certainly attracted less controversy. I might not be facing arrest and imprisonment there. After all, it is only a very minor series being watched largely by young males who amount to the population of a small english town – at most.
But … yes, then there is You Tube which does make a difference these days.
But people have got a bit carried away nevertheless.
Me? I’m just a stickler for truth insofar as it’s possible to tell it, and getting the balance right. Thai Cops was also my idea and it had enormous potential. It was a tricky proposition, I’ll admit, but everything was going swimmingly until the content we’d gathered in the field was handed over to Vera Productions in London. Everyone was on board – from JJ and the Marines to the Thai police and prison authorities.
Regardless of what anyone might think of JJ, there was absolutely no justification for faking the audio.
Though I was not responsible for doing so, I do apologise to the viewers that my idea for a highly-watchable Thai police series came to this.
I think it’s about time that reality TV got its house in order and production companies opened a dictionary and looked up the world “integrity”. This way we who work in the industry, in this genre, can hold our heads high in the knowledge we’re not disrespecting the TV viewer who would, I’m sure, like to believe that reality TV can either be trusted, or if not, carry a warning in the way cigarette packets do – along the lines of your summation Talen … don’t believe all you see or hear.
So the truth was out there, wasn’t it?

 

Talen at ThailandLandof Smiles has as usual demanded the last word.

So you, tabloid scum,  think you are a journalist, Tim thinks he is something big in the military and Gavin thinks he is some swanky film producer. You can all argue until to are blue in the face but I can tell you I work on facts gleaned from some 150 hours watching and re-watching the videos, and by nicking stuff off other blogs and quoting them out of context to make my site look better!

You tell you I know nothing, but let me tell You I know f*ck all!  Did you like my blog on Mukdahan by the way. Freudian eh. Me pretending to look for a whore but only finding this woman’s luscious dim sum. Bet that had you in a sweat! (enough now Ed).

Phuket Bungy jump - the bare truth exposed

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phuketbungy02So it’s off to Phuket as the London Daily Mail requests ‘colour’ for the story it is going to publish about British student Rishi Bavjeva, who took a flying leap this summer attached to a bungy cord – and never came up again.
The Phuket Bungy jump has been promoting its 100 per cent safety record heavily but Bavjeva suffered a ruptured spleen, torn liver, collapsed lungs, and severe bruising, after become detached from the cord.
Bungy manager Terry Pearce told Phuketwan: ”We’ve had 140,000 jumps here over 17-and-a-half years,” he said. ”And this is the only one that went wrong.”

He has watched the video more than once, and in agonising slow-motion, reported the Phuket website.

”The guy didn’t listen to the jumpmasters,” Mr Pearce said. ”He went feet-first and his knees go up. He was young enough and strong enough to kick his way free.

”We’ve changed a couple of things since. The leg-wrapping we now use grips like hell. I’ve tried it myself.”

Well that’s nice to know.  Maybe they should just attach pensioners to these bungy cords.

I mean their site advertises the following:

  • Bungy Jump
  • Tandem Bungy
  • Catapult Bungy
  • Backwards Bungy
  • Water Touch Bungy
  • Well we all saw the video and I saw no evidence of him trying to kick himself free.  I just saw a guy take a massive high dive.
    Anyway despite the fact that Phuket Bungy claims it is fully insured Rishi is not going to bother to sue or claim.
    Now back to last week when Andy Chant went to do some back up and scene setting pictures for the Daily Mail.
    Seems it was not a good time to go!  The US Navy was in port in strength and the new sport is of course ‘Naked Bungy jumping’.

    weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

    Well why do anything clothed when you can do it naked?  
    Poor old photo-journalist  Andy Chant had to sit around for hours photographing little more than flying bollocks.
    He also reported that the people actually fitting the punters into their feet harnesses were also all local.

    Look just let me hold my B*****ks

    Look just let me hold my B*****ks

    Look, they are probably fine, but with Thailand’s safety record its bound to make some people uneasy.
    “I thought the idea was that you just touched the water before the cord pulled you back up again,” said Andy.

    I guess so. They do advertise ’water touch’ as opposed to ‘kamikaze’.

    Apparently not. “Some guys went right under”. 

     ‘Meat and two veg and all’, as they say in the sarf London resort of Patt-ay-ya, all hitting the water with a giant thwack!

    I've got them all tucked up nicely this time

    I've got them all tucked up nicely this time

    British honeymoon couple survive Thai train horror

    From Andrew Drummond, Hua Hin
    Monday October 5th 2009

    Link to Daily Telegraph Link to Metro

    Link to Daily Mail   Link to Daily Express

     

    Pictures: Andrew Chant
    A British honeymoon couple today spoke of their miraculous escape from death when a train on the Orient Express line in Thailand crashed killing ten people and injuring over 50.
    Richard Stroud, 43, and his bride Dawn, 34, were thrown from their beds as the Bangkok bound train left the rails and crashed into another train. Their carriage came to an abrupt halt and then rolled twice sending the couple spinning.
    “It was like we were in space when the carriage rolled. One minute I saw Richard on the other side of the carriage, then he was gone, then he was there again. We were literally flying,” said Dawn, a retail manager at Home Bargains in Stroud.
    “I ended up on top of Richard then our beds ended up on top of us.”

    Honeymooners Dawn and Richard Stroud in Hua Hin Hospital

    Honeymooners Dawn and Richard Stroud in Hua Hin Hospital

    Richard and Dawn were heading back to Bangkok for a flight home last night after a two week holiday in Thailand, which began with two days in Bangkok, a week the northern capital Chiang Mai taking in some jungle trekking.
    For the last week they had gone south of the island of Koh Meuk in Thailand’s Trang Province. “It was idyllic. Because of the down turn in tourism we had a beach and a resort, which can accommodate 300 people, virtually all to ourselves”,  said Richard, Materials Manager for G.E. Aviation in Cheltenham, previously married with two sons.
    “We decided to take a first class cabin back to Bangkok taking the same route the Orient Express takes.  It may have saved our lives.  We were asleep when we were awoken by the whole train shuddering.
    “I shouted down to Dawn in the bottom bunk ‘What the hell is that!’.  Then suddenly we were both thrown out of our bunks.  I hit some metal, and then came down on the sink.  Then the train started rolling.
    “When we recovered it was pitch black but we found some lights we put on our heads for caving and switched them on. All around us we could hears moans and crying.
    “After a while rescuers came and they were very good.  They put a neck brace on me and pulled me up and out through a window as the train was on its side.
    “As we walked away we had to pick our way through mangled metal and wreckage and the bodies of those from a 2nd Class carriage, who were not so lucky.”
    Richard and Dawn Stroud will have to wait two weeks before they are allowed to fly back to the hometown which bears their name – Stroud.  Doctors have told Richard he is not fit to fly in the meantime.
    He has two fractured ribs and bad body bruising.
    Thai State Railways Governor  Yuthanna  Thapcharoen said: “Among the 10 people dead is a 2-yr-old girl.  We have already begun an enquiry into why the train left its tracks and I cannot comment further.”
    The Thai News  Agency said a switching error may have been the cause of the crash near Hua Hin, a Thai beach resort 150 miles south of Bangkok early this morning.  The train was due in Bangkok at 08.25am.
    But it is also being  reported that the train’s driver had gone through a red signal and that the train was travelling too fast to successfully traverse a junction.
    NB: Foreign/Home News Desks: final death toll and injuries likely to change:
    Ends.-