Friday, May 20, 2016

Friday, May 20, 2016


Subscribers to the numerous Facebook pages calling for justice in Thailand have little to rejoice in as the current military government continues to ignore their pleas - while instead continuing to search out Facebook users who are disloyal or subversive.

Today comes bad news for the Adam Pickles Fundraising Campaign Facebook pages and BlogSpot with reports that Sean Tinsley, the rogue visa salesman in Pattaya, who was jailed for six years for the attack on Adam Pickles, an international school’s Head of English, has hopped it.

Tinsley put Pickles in a coma from which he has not yet recovered, although his situation is reported to have improved much recently.
The Pattaya Court released Tinsley on bail to appeal his six year sentence for assault. 

The parents and supporters of Adam, through the prosecutor, were also appealing the decision asking for a charge of attempted murder against Tinsley -  on behalf of Adam, who taught at the International School of the Regents outside Pattaya.

Tinsley from Wolverhampton, who ran a decidedly dodgy visa agency, with the help of equally dodgy local officials (Nothing was done when he was caught selling dodgy visas approved by the consulate in Wales), had made no secret about selling up his home and belonging. 

Earlier report./ Tinsley picked the second option

According to the Adam Pickles Blog he was reported as a flight risk and had boasted about how stupid the Thai authorities were in giving him bail. 

I suspect that is not true. The Pattaya Court has a habit of giving bail to flight risk foreigners – after all they can impose bail conditions of some £10-20,000.  Why not take the cash? The foreigners are only going to cost the authorities cash in the penal system.

And it does not cost much more than that to negotiate oneself out of a murder charge in Thailand.

I see Deputy Pattaya Prosecutor Kerati Kankaew has also been welcomed to the Adam Pickles Fundraising blog.

Writes Adam’s brother Andrew Pickles:

 “I would like to welcome Kerati Kankaew to these pages. Kerati is the senior prosecutor in Pattaya and did such a wonderful job alongside Iain Morley in getting Tinsley convicted last December. He continues to assist us as we work to bring an end to the games that TInsley is playing to avoid justice. Kerati has been a great support and represents all that is good within the Thai legal system. It is nice to have him with us.”

It is a pity that Kankaew did not put in a more forceful objection to bail.

He’s certainly a man I would like to talk to in relation to false charges being laid against foreigners in Pattaya and their incarceration without even going before a judge – as in the case of ‘Jason ‘Jaysukh Sudra’.

But perhaps he can help with an international arrest warrant, but that may have to wait until he does'nt turn up for the new judgment.

While he is at it perhaps he could also help with international arrest warrants for Brian Goudie, 48, aka Goldie, from Falkirk, Scotland, who was given bail after being convicted of cheating a 78-yrear-old American woman out of nearly US$300,000 while posing as a lawyer.

And of course let's not forget Drew Walter Noyes, 60, the former publisher of the Pattaya Times newspaper, an international con man, who even dined with the judges at Pattaya Court. 

He was given bail to appeal after being convicted of extortion.
The court accepted the equivalent of some US$12,000. 

Noyes is currently in Wilmington, North Carolina, a town he fled in 1995 after being exposed by the local newspaper the Wilmington Morning Star (now the Star-News) as a man involved in shady property and share dealings and sexual harassment in the workplace.

Brian Wright
And then of course there is Brian Wright, who was given bail after being convicted and sentenced to 23 years by Pattaya Court.

Wright was also released on bail by the same court and has of course disappeared. But he has not re-surfaced in Rhode Island where a warrant was issued years ago for child sexual abuse. 

Other Facebook seeking justice in Thailand campaigns are also faltering. 

In a public display over a year ago the Commissioner of the Thai Police promised Irishman Colin Vard justice over claims that he had been robbed of seven houses in Thailand by corrupt bank officials, lawyers, money lenders and the police.  This happened after Colin staged a sit in in the street outside police headquarters.  Nothing happened. Colin’s situation is direr than ever. Check out Justice for Jessie on Facebook.

Colin Vard = a collective 'We'll bring the perpetrators to justice' meant 'We will not bring the perpetrators to jistice'

Colin is now being sued by lawyers under the Computer Crime Act thus joining Briton Ian Rance, who was robbed of a similar amount and in a similar way as Colin Vard down in Phuket, and the BBC’s Jonathan Head, who broadcast a story about both Ian and Colin.

Ian Rance and his family
Jonathan has found out how ridiculous are the cases brought under

Head confront Thai lawyer

Thailand’s Computer Crime Act. He will already know truth is not a defence of libel in Thailand.

And seemingly it’s not in the public interest to expose dodgy lawyers.

And then there is the case of Jack Hansen-Bartel the young Aussie who was allegedly severely beaten by two rich American-Chinese kids – see Justice for Jack. 

Jack has to fly in for his trial for alleged common assault while his rich assailants have been told they do not have to attend court for causing grievous bodily harm – but close on attempted murder.  

Years on Jack is still undergoing corrective surgery for injuries caused to him in the part police owned Green Mango Club at Chawaeng on Koh Samui.

Is there a message out there? This certainly gives credence to a Bangkok Post feature writer who stated last year that about 65 per cent of people in prison in Thailand were most likely innocent.


D. Farang said...

It pays to get out of going to jail in the LOS - big time. So those that know the system (read everyone) can pay do so. The rest of farang and Thais are in general - "guilty until proven innocent."

So keep a slush fund if you are able. Not more than say a hundred thousand Baht - that should about do it for most any allegation.
Ouch. Indeed.

Andrew Drummond said...

A tad more than that - D farang

Bob Kneale said...

A much better idea is simply to keep out of trouble which is very easy to do. The only ones that need keep a slush fund to pay their way out of jail are those who think they're likely to put themselves in that position. If the cap fits and all that...

Andrew Drummond said...

Not that easy to do as a journalist Bob. Or as a Thai opponent to the government.

soiCzar said...

hundred thousand dollars maybe....100,000 baht buys you SFA except for a beer bar violation Farang! Thats a joke right?

D. Farang said...

"A much better idea is simply to keep out of trouble (in Thailand) which is very easy to do."

Great point Bob - and spot on! Err..except the time I got rear-ended by a motorbike on Phuket - because I didn't run the red light, and soon found myself surrounded by a mob of angry Thais..

..or the time my friend and I got a bill for 10,000 Baht - for six Heinekin beer on Bangla Road, or was it four?

..or how about those hapless farang that get pushed over short balconies, anywhere above the third floor or so? Surely you don't think everyone of them "went over the top" of their own volition now, do you Bob? Ouch. Believe me, some of them joined the Bangkok (or Pattaya) flying club by sheer opposed to by their own will.

.. or how about the Rohingya refugees that get caught in Thailand en route to somewhere else - and end up as slave labor, sex slaves, or dead? These poor folks lacked a slush fund - for certain!

..or how about Human Rights Activist Andy Hall? Seems he's found trouble in Thailand simply by dint of telling the truth about that "little" fruit company, and its concomitant slave labor practices..

I've a hundred or so more examples to refute your bovine theory.
Sorry Bob, trouble finds many people in Thailand - farang and Thai, even when they did nothing wrong - so I would humbly suggest that your paradigm is just slightly flawed, just a "little" bit, a wee tad as it were.

But it must be nice up in that Ivory Tower, with head in the proverbial sand..You'd do an ostrich proud!

Cheers anyway, Bob, and all the Best

Bob Kneale said...

So which journalists relevant to the content of this thread have been released from jail for a donation to the Thai police, Andrew? Or have even arrested?

Anonymous said...

How on earth did whoever was responsible try to justify a bill of 10000 baht for 6, (or 4), Heinekens?
And how were things resolved in the end?
I'm genuinely interested!

Bob Kneale said...

D.Farang, what I suggested is not just a theory, it works. As for your ironically stupid "bovine" remark, let's see whose comments were bovine, eh?

First of all this report and these comments it attracted relate to situation such as Tinsley's, Goudie's, Noyes, Wright's, i.e. people who have paid to get out of jail.

You describe an unlikely, and unsubstantiated, story about a motorcycle incident. Were you imprisoned as a result? Of course you weren't or you would have mentioned it.

A bar bill story in which you don't even know how many beers were, allegedly, involved. Was there a chance that you could have been jailed and require a slush fund? Not a chance, you would have told us if that was the case.

Then you bring up balcony deaths. Bizarre. How would slush funds have helped those people?

Rohingya? Leaving aside the politics, they were unfortunate but risk-taking illegal immigrants and irrelevant to this thread. They would still be alive if they hadn't chosen to put themselves in the position that they did. By the way, they clearly did have a slush fund at some stage in order to pay to become illegal immigrants.

Andy Hall? Yes, 100,000 baht would really have helped him to get out of the situation he voluntarily put himself in knowing full well, as an intelligent man, the risk involved.

Thank heaven you stopped where you did and didn't relate the hundreds of other stories you have, although if you had continued I suppose there would have been a small chance that one of them could be relevant to the subject AD wrote about.

The flaws that you think that you see in my theory are actually your's but you must be congratulated on being so accomplished in the subject of mixed metaphors, at the very least. Is there sand in ivory towers, am I up there or down on the ground with the ostriches? I'm sure you're going to let me know.

I'd like to reciprocate your "cheers" and your hopes for the sort of day that I'm going to have but your "bovine" remark rather took the sincerity out of your sentiments, so I won't bother. I have enjoyed the few minutes it took to write this, though. I must say.

Andrew Drummond said...

Missed the poimt by a mile Bob. The only way for journalists to keep out of trouble is to avoid writing the truth. Journalists not arrested? Are you sure you're keeping up to speed here?

Ron Harrison said...

Wow! Mr. Beale enjoyed the contact with his exposed nerve. I am begging Mr, Farang to limit exposing the truths of life in Thailand and avoid witnessing a self-immolation.

Bob Kneale said...

This is turning into a bickering match that I don't want to be part of but just as I won't let D.Farang off for making uncalled for offensive remarks without retaliating I'm not going to let you get away with your comment either, Andrew, particularly when it seems that it's you missing the poimt [sic] of your own report by a mile.

This thread and my comments (and D.Farang's) are about some allegedly innocent, un-named people being incarcerated and some guilty ones using their slush funds to pay to get out of jail, that was what I was commenting on as you would know if you kept up to speed. I am very much aware of the difficulties some journalists have doing their jobs but this thread is not about journalists avoiding trouble by writing the truth or otherwise. I didn't mention journalists, but, as you did, perhaps you can tell me which journalists have been locked up and then released following the payment of less than 100k baht?

Hwy 66 said...

Too much drama here...

Andrew Drummond said...


Statmonkey said...

Not totally, rather enjoying the thought of "risk-taking" Rohinyga with a "slush fund". I am thinking that the Thai's would want to expose this under-reported angle. Overall this is confirming though, I have always looked at victims of genocide as itinerant risk-takers. :)

D. Farang said...

"Andy Hall? Yes, 100,000 baht would really have helped him to get out of the situation he voluntarily put himself in knowing full well, as an intelligent man, the risk involved."

But sometimes people much better than us (like Andy Hall) are willing to put their life on the line for a good humanitarian cause Bob. It's where "common sense" takes a back seat to affirmative, proactive positive action - on the behalf of others no less. It's a higher state of morality that Andy Hall operates at, that most of us fail to aspire to - myself included for certain, and you too I suspect Bob, or Robert to be precise.

Andy Hall's actions for others who are downtrodden merits great respect, especially in this age of supreme entitlement and a "me-first" attitude.

Given that, it's no wonder Andy Hall is not interested in "paying his way out of trouble," even if he had that sort of cash available.
I infer that your comment suggests that Andy was foolish to take risks, but he is operating on a higher plane than both of us combined, IMHO.

Trying to add a little value to Andrew's journalism, in the form of comments pertinent to the topic at hand is hit and miss. That I consistently fall well short of the mark is acknowledged, always.

It's in the doing, the trying, in winning with dignity or losing with humility - which is essential if "attitude = altitude" means anything. Andy is thinking outside the box - way, way outside the box. Andy Hall seems to get it. Do we?
All the Best

soiCzar said...

more of the same....(drama).

Anonymous said...

I will say one thing in your favour, Bob. You are a voice in the wilderness on this site, but you stand your ground. Nobody agrees with what you say, (not surprising since most of it is codswallop), but you have proved to be a most worthy spokesman for the system - albeit unofficial.
I just hope that you will see the light one day, Bob.

Gerry westerby said...

Bob's views on matters Thai are as valid as those who might criticise a victim of a car accident on the sole grounds they were stupid enough to enter a vehicle in the first place.

Andrew Drummond said...

Actually the Rohingya did not chose to put themselves in the hands of the Thai authorities and had no slush funds- which was why many died because they could not pay to go any further. In the case of the argument with a bar owners or being involved in an accident - right or wrong - the foreigner often requires a slush fund. Surprised you did not know that Bob. People falling off balconies does not seem relevant - but the chances are they had no funds left at all.

soiCzar said...

way too much time on his hands...nothing to do and all day to do it.

Statmonkey said...

Actually Bob is in good company as this condition is well defined. See ultracrepidarianism and/or Dunning-Kruger effect. Add to that what I call the Sisyphus Echo corollary - which is: the louder, stronger and more vehemently someone expresses an opinion the more they feel it is truth/validated in spite of logic to the contrary and the more put off they are by the fact that others offer rational alternatives proving the original arguments fallacy. It's kind of a corollary to Hanlon's Razor.

On topic: The activities of the Red Bull Heir (or lack of activity) who by simply avoiding showing up for court to evade charges resulting in the expiration of the statute of limitations is another abject lesson in Thai justice. It's hard to imagine (as Andrew often points out) that anyone sees any justice in this system. Reminds me of the case of Dungchalerm's kids a few years ago, when they shot the guy in front of 20 or so witnesses and then just scarpered, did a little Buddha time and finally became part of the ruling establishment.

D. Farang said...

"Rohingya? Leaving aside the politics, they were unfortunate but risk-taking illegal immigrants and irrelevant to this thread. They would still be alive if they hadn't chosen to put themselves in the position that they did."

I beg to differ. There is a good chance the Rohingya would be killed (or starved - same thing) if they stayed in Burma-Myanmar, judging by the way "leader" Aung San Suu Kyi has not exactly jumped on their bandwagon, and how Buddhists in Burma generally detest them.

Just because they are Muslims does not make them pariahs on this veil of tears called planet earth.

So count your own blessings - and take nothing for granted eh?

D. Farang said...

The Dunning-Kruger effect huh? You schooled me too - it's great to be a life-long student, almost as good as winning with dignity-humility - and losing with dignity-humility. Egos are a waste of time - too bad we're all cursed with them in varying degrees - from minute to full-blown.

It seems that gigantic egos prevent proactive positive change not only in Thailand (not to mention justice in a plethora of ways, like for the Red Bull heir)- but in all of us by degree - more or less - the Dhali Lamma perhaps excluded - but I somehow doubt even he escapes the "malaise" at all times..


Drew Noyse is a convicted criminal. said...

Sounds like Bob is putting him self in trouble.
Hes obviously on the crack pipe.
Hope the BIB dont pay him a visit.
Would love to hears his explanation on this when his caught.