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British woman raped in Pattaya - Part 2

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Following a report here (written from Thai copy sent by our reporter in Pattaya) also sent to the British newspapers, some people down in Pattaya seem surprised that this event was not reported in the local newspapers, though I believe it has been now.   A thread even went up on Thaivisa.com http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Press-Censorship-Pattaya-t315227.html.

I never seem to be surprised that people down on the eastern seaboard put so much faith in their local press, when an even cursory look at some of the ‘hail fellow well met’ owners, and past owners, and their agendas, should ring massive alarm bells all around.

Censorship in Burma: Courtesy Msf/Bart

Censorship in Burma: Courtesy Msf/Bart

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We are not in Burma so the censorship in Thailand is mainly self censorship. Of course you could get shot or ruined if you break the rules!

Actually one newspaper’s published agenda is to protect the city’s image against harmful foreign publicity and has been harping on about the ‘family resort’  ever since its conception, though its former chief reporter had a gun, a stun gun,  and interesting sidelines, both as a tourist policeman and an agent running a sort of SOS business for foreigners in the sh*t.

As for the other main English language newpaper, ouch, don’t go there. Never mind the boss, a member of the FCCT when I last looked, one of its TV interviewers is best known for his conviction for possessing child porn in the UK. I could go on…and on.

Ask yourself this. In trouble in Pattaya? Victim of injustice, fraud, or other crime? Need to expose a villain?  Would you go to your local paper for help? The answer is no, which is why many people contact their papers back home.

Want to perpetrate a scam?  Sell a puppy (in all senses of the word) Whitewash your past with a personality write up: Answer: Yes.

Anyway readers of ThaiVisa.com were treated to the  lifted Daily Mail version of my story. The Daily Mail claimed, under my name, that the woman was raped.  My story stated that the woman ‘claimed’ she was raped.  While it may be true she was raped, there is no conviction and two men were already in custody.

This seems to have been leapt on by a couple of posters as a prime example of dishonest or exaggerated reporting.  I was particularly intrigued by a post called ‘Aussiechick’ who asked people if they remembered my World Cup stories………..suggesting another case of maybe exaggeration or whatever.

Aussie Rules? No perhaps she meant the ‘Chelsea Headhunters’,  a bunch of thugs who ended up in Pattaya after being found not guilty on conspiracy to cause affray charges, when police were caught ‘verballing’ them (verballing: essentially inventing quotes).  They have long since diminished, victims to Thai women and the recession, I gather.  I understand also one or two were a little miffed to have been nabbed by Japanese police at Narita airport on the way to the World Cup there, way back when.  They put it down to me, but its much more likely to have been the British NCIS - The National Criminal Intelligence Service.

Stan the Monkey

Stan the Monkey

ThaiVisa even gave a convicted paedophile better known in the UK as ‘Stan the Monkey’ space to rant about me on the same thread.  He claimed I did a story about him without even meeting him etc.  My story was totally false etc.  For those who saw this rant, which has now been removed, here is the link and pictures of the first of two confrontations, working with the Metropolitan Police Women and Juvenile Division in Bangkok and FACE - Fight Against Child Exploitation.  They could have placed charges against him in Thailand by the way, but the Thai authorities found it a lot easier just to deport him for working illegally. Now its apparently my fault he cannot come back.  Or have you Alan?

And there was also this post from some guy calling himself Manarak (Anorak perhaps would be better) which I cannot resist quoting.

He says: “We don’t have any details on what precisely happened to this girl or how it happened. This makes the whole story suspicious.
The papers normally would pay a good price for a story full of disgusting details, but no… no story. Strange?”

What?

A little evidence here courtesy of ThaiVisa reflecting on the level of argument some of their members. :-).  Still,  if the posts keep coming in on mass the webmasters can cash in on more of those ‘Bangkok massage’ adverts.

But  is there likely to be a happy conclusion in the rape case ? No. It is very rare. The ‘raped’ woman asked for no publicity. The Pattaya Police did not want the story published. In low profile cases like this there is no chance of having the case fast tracked.

So if she were to prosecute the case, there would only be her evidence, and perhaps the other evidence of what was stolen. She might have to wait out a year, even if the defendants pleaded guilty, two years or more if otherwise. If she left the country she would have to pay her air fare to come back.   And what was she doing alone in walking street at 12.30 they will ask?  

It would be an absolute nightmare.  So lets face the facts. For a foreign woman sexually abused in Thailand there is little recourse. Do not expect the same justice as you get back home. Don’t lose your friends. Be safe.

Its tragic - but true.

False news at ThaiVisa.com (updated)

This was a blog about the activities of a person calling himself a journalist in Bangkok.  

 After several days now I have removed it and saved it - not for any other reason than that the people who should know about this man do now and that a report from the Malaysian press states medically that he has psychiatric problems.

There is therefore no reason to leave any more indelible marks on the internet other than those which already exist and he should be allowed to get a life.

Thanks you for all your comments and reports of similar experiences

A boy’s drowning and Thai Visa.com - A protest

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I very rarely lose it but I am absolutely disgusted at comments allowed on Thai Visa.com in the news cuttings section ‘Boy drowned under whirpool in Pattaya Park’ and this is after censorship by the board’s moderators. This is about a 14-year-old boy Nathan Clark a British boy who drowned a couple of days ago.

These comments by arrogant idiots clearly do not represent the views of most posters. However I feel personally ashamed that I might even come from the same country as these people. So moderators , if you have any sense of public decency, please delete them now.

Pattaya journalists banned from covering criminal trials - Blog

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Andrew Drummond, Bangkok, February 13 2009

Now and again a little gem comes up on the net that’s worth giving a little further attention. And this one has actually been lurking up there for two years but I only came across it recently on Thaivisa.com when I was checking from interested parties, whether those arrested for murders of foreigners  and vice-versa had actually made it to court.  (Yes, there is no point in checking newspapers in Thailand)

It’s a post from that fine and upstanding Essex chappie Howard Miller, ‘Managing Editor’ of Pattaya City News (now Pattaya One News) and a black clad Tourist Police Volunteer Group Leader, (unkindly referred to by one Thaivisa poster by the accurate German translation of his title,  ‘Gruppenfuhrer’). His news operation regular comes in for stick from foreigners down in Pattaya for treating local police statements in the same way others might treat the Bible or Koran.

In his reply to criticisms that viewers are never told what happens to all those foreigners and Thais after they are arrested he announces that his journalists are in affect banned from the court!

Howard Miller:”I have been asked about this on a number of ocassions. On major stories such as this one ( murder - this was a story about a Thai mia noi who ordered the killing of her New Zealand boyfriend. AD), we are easily able to follow-up to it’s conclusion. However on some of the other cases (drugs, assault, immigration arresting foreigners and other minor crimes), the cases are sent to the court. We are not given access to the court. Please come to your own conclusions as to why we are not allowed to asign a reporter to the courthouse. PCN has been operating now for nearly 4 years and this constantly annoys me. Basically we can’t finish off the story and this frustration filters through to the reader on many occasions. Trust me on this one….I share your frustration but this situation will never change unfortunately”.

Just for a bit of colour on the subject of accuracy he goes on: “ Well, all I can say is PCN is guilty of ommiting some detail from a story some times, but I am confident that the information we give on a story is accurate to the best of our abilities. We must be doing something right because we sell our stories to Channel 3, Channel 7, Channel 9(MCOT) and ITV along with printed media, Matishon and Daily News national newspapers, on a daily basis. All are major national Thai TV stations and national newspapers in Thai language. We also deal with Reuters and other International news organisations when a major story breaks. This is in no way a “guarantee” that every piece of information is accurate, but even the “Big Boys” get it wrong sometimes, that is the nature of the job and is partly due to the pressures on us to get a story released as soon as possible. Other local news organisations do not have such contacts and for this, I am proud of every member of staff who works for me for making PCN a truly international news organisation. (sorry if it sounds like I am trying to sell PCN to you, but I am saying what I really feel)”.

Miller’s admission is absolutely believable. (Though his belief only minor crimes go to court is ‘out of court’ to so speak, unless murder is less important than overstaying a visa).

 When I go down to Pattaya on criminal trials I am often the only journalist there. Howard’s ‘international news’ boys go no further than the police station. It’s not because they won’t - ‘they can’t’ he says.

The ‘Big Boys’- Reuters, APTV, and the Thai national channels do not have the same problem and can and do go to the courts in Pattaya. But not very often. The problem the ’Big Boys’ have is trying to cover cases which sit only one day a month, and during which witnesses, especially police ones, frequently do not turn up.  Most organisations only go down on the judgment on bigger cases. (So they get no defence).

For many years judges in Phuket have banned local journalists, who are merely asked to print the judgment written by the judge. What Howard Miller is effectively saying is that the authorites have the local press fully in the bag. Its ‘pon prayote’ - for the benefit of all.

Anyway Howard Miller is not going to upset the ’status quo’ and defend the old chestnuts that ‘ law provides that justice should be seen to be done’,  and ‘justice delayed is justice denied’.

But at least we now know from the horse’s mouth. And needless to say his television news has not reported on the result of the New Zealander’s murder,  or those ‘minor’ matters which go to court, …or probably any result for that matter.

It probably also explains why the Pattaya Daily News lifted the pictures and result of the Maurice Prail case off this website.  No local press were at the court.

Anyway thanks for your honesty Howard. And if you want to know what happened to the bailed mia noi who allegedly inherited 700,000 baht.

Ask a policeman!

Meanwhile I guess Howard Miller will have to do some soul searching. His news is police-story led. The so called criminals are condemned at police press conferences by  local stations such as Pattaya One and they know that even if they are acquitted their names will not be cleared - unless they get a copy of the judgment and take it to the local media themselves. But an acquitall is never as good as the original story.

 

(edited Feb 17)